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So we are very clear about the fact that President Zelaya is the democratically elected President, and we will work with the regional organizations like OAS and with other international institutions to see if we can resolve this in a peaceful way.

With respect to the free trade agreement, obviously a lot of work has already been done on the free trade agreement, and we are hopeful that we can -- we can move forward to completion.  I don't have a strict timetable, because I'm going to have to consult with Congress obviously on this issue.  We've got a lot on our plates, if you haven't noticed.  And I think that the burden is not simply on Colombia; I think Colombia has done a lot of excellent work.  It is a matter of getting both countries to a place where their legislatures feel confident that it will be ultimately to the economic benefit of these countries.

I have noted a special concern that is bipartisan and shared both by this administration and Congress, that the human rights issues in Colombia get resolved.  President Uribe has assured me that he is interested in resolving those issues.  And, as I said, great progress has been made.  I trust that we can make more progress.  And I think that will help shape the overall environment in which this issue is being debated in Congress.

Okay?  You want to call on --

PRESIDENT URIBE:  Entonces, Natalia Orozco.

Q    President Obama, President Chavez, it's not a secret, wanted to be reelected; President Zelada [sic] wanted to be reelected; and President Uribe hasn't decided yet.  Are you worried about what relation of those leader, and can have effects in the Western Hemisphere?  Do you have a message for them?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Well, first of all, I think it's very important that, in all these countries, it's not for the United States to make these decisions.  It's for the people of these countries to make these decisions.  And one of the clear policies that we want to put forward is that we stand on the side of democracy, sovereignty, and self-determination.

We know that our experience in the United States is that two terms works for us and that after eight years, usually the American people want a change.  I related to President Uribe the fact that our most revered President, or at least one of our two most revered Presidents, George Washington, part of what made him so great was not just being a founder of our country, but also the fact that at a time when he could have stayed President for life, he made a decision that after service, he was able to step aside and return to civilian life.  And that set a precedent then for the future.

But as I said, each country, I think, has to make these decisions on their own, and I think what's ultimately most important is that the people feel a sense of legitimacy and ownership, and that this is not something imposed on them from the top, that it's not -- does not involve manipulations of the electorate or rigging of the electoral process or repression of opposition voices, but that whatever is determined is done in an open, transparent way so that people feel confident that whoever is in power represents their voices and their interests.

PRESIDENT URIBE:  Let me make some comments about this question.  I brought to the table some topics that I call topics of internal debate in Colombia at this moment.  And one of the topics I brought to talk about it with President Obama is this topic.  And I want to summarize.

I said to President Obama, first, I am concerned, because I am a member of one generation of the four or five generations that have not lived one single day in peace in Colombia or prosperity.  Therefore, I consider that Colombia needs to extend in that time security, democratic values, investment in social responsibility and social cohesion -- with adjustments.

I don't believe in stagnation, and I don't believe in gross changes.  I believe in one goal, in one mission, with dynamism, with daily adjustments.  And I have said in the second point of this comment that I consider that this is happening, it is necessary to extend these policies.  It is not convenient to perpetuate the precedent.

 
And I have said to President Obama what I want to say to you.  Colombia is a country of solid democratic institutions.  When we speak about institutions, we cannot speak in abstract about institutions.  We have to speak about institutions in concrete terms.  We have 1,102 mayors directly elected by the people; 32 governors.  The regions in Colombia invest 51 percent of the public expenses.  My government has built governments with all the regional governors and mayors regardless their political regions, and they have many, many political regions.

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